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wade said:

a couple things i noticed in the photos...dunno if this is indicative or not: the anti-gay protesters were overwhelmingly men. and where are the queer people of color? nearly all the couples i've seen are white.
i went to a trans activist conference yesterday, and the speaker pointed out that much of our queer organizing is around symbolic victories. how much does same-sex marriage solve problems? does hate-crimes legislation actually affect the committing of crimes? the keynote asked us to consider who actually creates these agendas. nothing wrong with fighting for same-sex marriage and civil rights, but we ought to think about how to best use our energies.

wade said:

and the other thing i see missing here is dialogue. maybe this isn't the appropriate time for dialogue, but i don't see either side quite making arguments relevant to the other. the antis keep talking about the sanctity of marriage and the immorality of it all, while the pros talk about civil rights and legality. neither side is speaking the language of the other. i do believe legality and civil rights should have precedent here because it's a legal matter...but then again, i'm not an anti. at the end of the day, legality doesn't really matter to antis. i want to ask what we're really arguing about. gays & lesbians are accepted on TV/film readily enough, so why not reality? is the same-sex marriage debate really about same-sex marriage, or is it more fundamentally about discomfort and morality? is it more fundamentally about how much a majority can dictate the lives & bodies of a minority? i don't even know, but i find it hard to sustain myself when i can't see through the bullshit of two sides standing & yelling at each other.

Anne Marie said:

Whenever I hear someone on the radio or read about someone in the paper talking about marriage being the most important institution of our civilization, I wonder where they have been all these years while divorce rates have been skyrocketing. An article yesterday in the NY Times says "a study by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force last fall discovered that 334 documents on the American Family Association's Web site contained the word "homosexual" while "divorce" and "domestic violence" together merited fewer than 70 mentions." (Also, if they are so upset about marriage being used for something other than the "man-woman-god" alliance that they endorse, what about all those heterosexuals out there who have been married in secular ceremonies? Also: it seems to me like invariably, anti-gay-marriage folks cite either 1) God or 2) the need for "one man and one woman" when raising a child. Well for the first issue I defer to Sam's employers. For the second: does this seem to anyone else like the root of this all is not just sexuality but gender as well? It seems to me like these folks are still so attached to separate notions of "male" and "female" (or father and mother) that they cannot conceive of two parents of the same gender being able to parent in the same way as two parents of opposite genders. On Saturday I heard an interview on NPR of an episcopal priest, who said that he thought it would be better for a child to have a single mom than to have two moms. What are they so afraid of? I can't fathom it.

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